Subject:RE: RE: Looking for some advice on my '59 165 Date:Thu Jun 7 14:28:50 2012
Response to:17334
Kurt, I saw that you recently got the paint manual. Do you happen to know the
paint code for a 56 st Tangerine? I am restoring one and it has been painted
and was not originally tangerine. If you have that info, it would be greatly
appreciated!! Thank you!


Hi guys. Been a pretty busy week and i finally have a chance to post about
what was going on with the bike this weekend. I think i ended up with a
couple more questions after getting started on pulling things apart for the

I posted some more detailed pics on my website.

I welcome any input on the pictures as well as sme different ideas as to
what anyone thinks should be done. Keep in mind, i don't have any plans to
have any body work or paint done on the bike. I told my dad that i would
keep it as much like it was when he was 17/18 and rode it for the first time.
(you'll find a pic of him with the pics on my site, on that bike when my
grandfather bought it)

I pulled the headlight off, as it appeared to me that it had been rewired with
wire that was more "modern" than the original wiring. Since the wiring
harness did ot come with any connectors, i'm undecided what i should do a
out the headlight connector. The original seems to be in great shape.
Although, it could have been replaced when they put the more modern
wiring in for the headlight. I would like to use the connector, but don't want
the wire. Where can i get the two contact tips that are crimped onto the end
of the connector wires? Or, am I thinking about this the wrong way?

Second question... After unscrewing the horn button and the headlight
switch, I was finding it difficult to get enough slack in the wire to disconnect
the wires. I have yet to pull out the ignition/light switch from the gas tank.
But, I was thinking that pulling that and disconnecting might possiblly do the
trick. I was tired and didn't immediately see how to remove the retention
ring from the ignition switch. I believe i have that figured out though.

The battery was purchased between '69 and '72. I haven't tested it yet. I'll
see if I can get that done this weekend.

Anyways, it's dinner time. Take a look at the pics of the dusty bike on my
site and please feel free comment.


Kurt, Search the messages for "battery", and "regulator" you'll find lots of
info. Also check the how to Restore section, chapter 71, Battery. this
section doesn't suggest the solutions 'xcept maybe check with Duane &
Leroy, There are aftermarket boxes that look like the stock battery (or
hollow out the one you have, toxic- beware) and install a new type battery
that fits inside the box. Doug


You'd probably have to get clarification from Duane on his products. He
does know his stuff, and a whole lot about these bikes. The Stock battery
isn't made in a quality trustable in this application. The batteries cyrently
made in this size are rumored to be made overseas and have assembly
and design problems so even on a show(never ridden) bike might fail. I'm
guessing here the box looks like the stock battery and the battery is a new
battery of new construction and shape, shipped dry to conform to shipping
regulations. You'd have to go to your local battery maintenance shop to get
it filled with acid, (then give it a topping up charge). The loss of "wear items"
is a common problem on this 60 year bike, the obsolete battery problem on
these bikes is often solved this way.


Hi All. Sorry to keep everyone hanging. It's been a pretty
busy week so far. Thank you all for the advice so far. It
will come in handy, I'm sure.
I just received the wiring harness today and I have the
1958-1966 Harley-Davidson Parts Service Colors Accessories
Manual on the way. Yay! So, if all goes well, I will have
the bike mostly wired this weekend.
I still need to get my hands on a voltage regulator and a
battery. Which, poses a couple more questions. I saw some
battery info on the Taylor Classic Cycles site. They show
the 66001-47 and also a 66001-47S. Their description of the
47S says that it's the box the battery goes into. And, the
47 says it's a "dry charge" battery that fits into the 47S.
I've seen other places describe the 66001-47 as an acid
filled battery. So, what's the difference? Or is there a
difference? And, why the two parts instead of just a plain
ole battery? Where's a good place to get the voltage
regulator from? Or should I say where should I not get it


Hello All. I'm new here and I've been doing some research on
the ole family bike, so that I can get it back to running
condition. Just a little background before I as my
question(s). The 165 has been in the family since 1962. My
Grandfather purchased it used for $200. (And I still have
the original sales receipt) My dad and grandfather rode it
quite a bit back then, even my aunt until she put the dent
in the tank. It's been kept in very good condition and it's
been garage kept all these years. The last time it was run
was approx 8 years ago after my grandfather passed. Dad ran
it up and down the street, showed it off to the neighbors
and then drained the fluids, polished it up and then got it
down the stairs to the basement where it sat until just
about 3 years ago. Nobody has been able to get the bike
kick-started the last 8 years. They've always had to run and
clutch it. And, here we come to my questions.
My dad would prefer that I found parts from 1959, as the
bike is 100% original as it sits now. I know that's not
going to be entirely possible. The wire harness is fraying
and the wires themselves have started breaking. There is
some light corrosion inside the voltage regulator. The
battery seems that it might also need to be replaced. The
carb is clean and the motor turns but doesn't start. I've
already ordered a Hummer Emporium wiring harness and the
fuse holder and clamp. Outside the wiring issue and maybe
the voltage regulator keeping it from kicking over, are
there any suggestions as to why it would jump start but not
kick? Coil?
I'm not mechanically deficient and I can usually narrow
things down. But, I thought it might be best to ask some of
the veterans before taking too much originality away from
it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.