From:Doug Miller
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Frankenstein? Pics Date:Fri Sep 7 18:02:51 2012
Response to:17810

Matt O, I'm with Dave on this as best built as a "runner" then see where it goes. A 62 would be using the most of what you have. Fenders mught (?I've done this) be made from a dead dryer tub, you know the part that rotates inside the----- but when you find the right fenders, or tank you can swap them in until you get what you want, post parts you have, what you want & someone might have what you need.

It may be with some negotiation the swap will look like a major league pitcher-outfielder-catcher swap with 4 teams and the fans all getting what will do them the best. maybe not.

The only numbers on the bike are on the engine, so nomater which frame it's in the engine numbers go with the title.

Dave - Thank you for the great break down.

I didn't see any indication there used to be a toolbox mount. Nor did I see any grease fittings. I will check the rear sprocket later. The guy I bought it from said it had been sitting for 30+ years in a garage. Probably why there is only minor cracking on the tires.

The tank seemed like it was original but modified with the additional locked cap. This isn't a split tank is it? I stuck my finger in there and it felt like it was open on the top and I could access the other side of the tank.

I don't have any of what you mentioned. I wasn't looking to get this to showroom status ;-) my budget definitely won't allow for that. I guess for now my best option is to see about getting the thing to run. Would you know off hand what I could fetch for the motor after a rebuild, assuming it is in excellent condition? (highly unlikely this bike will be parted out)

But from your information it sounds like it probably best to build it up as a 1962. It would help to know this for registering it.

It's a "bitsa".

Frame - looks like a #8, but it's still hard to tell. It could also be a #5 (Model 165). I can't see a toolbox mount on the left rear bottom frame rail, was it there but removed? Very interesting modification to the rear brake system to use a cable!

Engine - probably a 1962 Scat.

Forks - I thought I saw grease fittings on the front forks, but in the new pictures, I don't see them. If no grease fittings, 1952-up. Top caps are 1952-up. There are slight differences in the forks from 1952-1966.

Wheels and hubs- 3.50x18, used on 1955/1956 - 1960, and 1962-up. The rear sprocket should have 49 teeth. The Firestone tires are probably from 1955-1957-ish, as Goodyear became the predominant tire around then.

Gas tank - 1950-1952 Model 125 or 1953-1959 Model 165.

The question now - do you have any fenders, fork panel, chain guard, handlebars and controls, headlight, taillight, speedometer? These are the expensive items, and depending on what you have...

From what I've seen so far, it's a bitsa this, bitsa that. Probably the best approach is to see if you can get the engine running, and turn it into a "fun" bike that you can ride around and feel good that you brought it back from the land of the dead.

The bike that started the Hummer Club was also a real mess - 1955-56 Hummer forks and wheels, 1957-1959 Hummer frame, 1960 Super 10 engine, 19?? Model 165 gas tank, etc.

But, it was a __complete running bike__ with excellent fenders. So I started from a much better position. Regardless, it took thousands of dollars and many, many years to make it an AMCA Winner's Circle bike.


Ok. Hope these are sufficient. If you need other angles/specific items, please let me know.