From:Dave Hennessey e-mail:dave-A-toyhouse.org
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 1959 165CC Date:Sat Jul 1 22:29:35 2017
Response to:22092
Pete,

The engine case has been broken and welded up. There's a considerable amount of case material missing under the cylinder. See attached picture that was blown up from
http://www.harleyhummerclub.org/members/jerry-hatfield/19838m.jpg (that's a 1953, but the cases were the same)

Just a guess - perhaps this failed the VIN inspection in CA (I think they require a VIN inspection for all vehicles coming in from out of state, or for lost title) due to the repairs / missing, and then was titled as a "Homemade" or somesuch to get around that.

Due to the difficulty (and cost) of finding another engine with a title, I'd just run it as is. You might be able to find yourself a complete bike with title for little more than the engine alone. And then you'd have the only 2 Hummers in Hawaii!



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It already has a Hawaii title but it is titled with a VIN # assigned by CA riveted to the frame instead of the VIN on the engine. It almost doesn't matter, like you said if I ever do sell it I would sell it to someone here, even though I think I'll just keep it and get some more of these things. Much less cheaper then restoring my 47El and just as fun and interesting. Here is a pic of the VIN number.

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Pete,

Hawaii is a very difficult state to get any DMV information about - at least on the web. They seem to have different offices and different rules depending which city/county/island you live on, and it all seems to be somewhat of a secret.

There is always some way to get things done. May be cost-prohibitive, but it can be done.

You might want to read this article. Nothing pops out to me as an "Eureka", but perhaps it might give you some ideas to explore.

http://www.harleykmodel.com/technical/how-to/titles/index.html


To be honest, if you can get a Hawaii title and tags with your current CA title, do so. Years down the road, when you sell it, it will probably be to someone in Hawaii. And they probably won't care too much about the VIN, as long as they can easily get HI title and tags for it.





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Thanks for the response. I live in Hawaii and unfortunately this state makes it impossible to get a title if I toss the assigned vin plate and title. The vin is completely visible and appears to be unaltered. I have someone looking into possible solutions for me down at the DMV now but I have very little hope. If all fails it's not then end of the world I'll just ride it like is and over time find another. They are not easy to come by out here.

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